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Good points Sebastian. Both the complex and the simple viewpoints have their place. As you say,, taking the simple view is emotionally satisfying. Explaining the complex view requires a lot of patience. Maybe the AIs have a role to play here, they can be more persistent and patient than us humans. Just read a paper suggesting there is some truth to that.

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Great article. This has been my instinctual thinking for many years now, so nice to see it fleshed out in writing.

Many times for having this mindset, i am accused of being opinionless, sitting on the fence and theres probably "SOME TRUTH" to that and SOME FALSITY. I call some people "scouts" (up a tree with binoculars in the middle of the battlefield seeing the bigger picture giving orders) and I call simpliers "soldiers" (shooting on the frontline battlefield only looking ahead at whos shooting them)...they have a simplified view, they follow the commands without question and get things done (sometimes thats very good and sometimes thats very bad). Maybe theres also a complex systems person too, a neutral farmer on top of a hill in the distance who sees the soldiers and the scouts and just sees people dying pointlessly and can see clearer how all the fighters can divy up the land.

I also think that theres another very key layer here which is a calling for a revolution in the way rational minds communicate complex systems with minds that see the world through a more emotional lense. As it seems the emotional lense (a complex system in of its own) often seems to simplify a perspective which it stays loyal to in order to campaign and protect that perspevtive (which has many benefits, but is also dangerous). Now when a rational perspective attempts to describe a complex system to an emotionally charged simplified perspective, the emotional perspective instinctually shuts down and puts the complex perspective into its a simplified binary ordering, creating further division. Therefore, i think we need a new complex revolution which bypasses this bug. Any ideas for a big fix? Part of it i believe comes down to communication, as in the display of empathy and tone used in communicating complex systems and often the only way simplifiers break out of simplification is being face to face with the thing that they are simplifying, when its distant its more abstract and easy to simplify.

Maybe in a complex system, we need complex and simple thinkers to make the system work? Or would it be more disjointed if everyone in a complex system thought in a complex way?

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